In this episode, Michelle and Alex talk about the reasons they decided to make the Netherlands their new home.

0:00 introduction

0:31 dream food tour city

5:49 let's go back

10:15 the idea of working together

13:55 traveling vs living abroad

16:44 the netherlands vs our goals

19:24 surviving without a car in the US

22:05 thriving without a car in NL

22:44 when alex met justin bobby

23:14 back to thriving without a car in NL

26:06 being bound to a traditional job

29:03 work mentality is just different

32:03 hustle culture in the US

36:50 wrap up