Today we are joined by Stani Kulechov. Who is the founder of Aave and the Lens protocol. Stani has been a builder for years in the Ethereum ecosystem and today we explore the value of constraints when building products. How to create open permissive contribution opportunities in DAOs. The role narratives play when building products. Why we need web3 social and the economic business models that could sustain web3 social. And the Lens protocol.