AI that your security team will actually approve.

Everyone wants to use AI. Almost nobody has worked out how to trust it. In this episode Rob Borley sits down with Abbas Khan, co-founder of Togii, to unpack the question sitting underneath every stalled AI rollout: what does trust even mean in an AI world, and how do you get it back?

We get into the Fable Five withdrawal and what happens when a frontier model you've built on simply disappears overnight, why compliance teams are the grown-ups in the room rather than the villains, the risk of "intelligence sprawl" as AI creeps into every tool in your stack, and why explainability and control now matter more than raw capability. If you're a CIO, a compliance lead, or anyone trying to get AI past the security team, this one's for you.

👤 Guest: Abbas Khan (Togii)

🔗 Abbas on LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/in/abbas-khan-04596811a/

🔗 Togii: https://www.togii.ai/

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