Money expert Liz Koh joins Kathryn to talk about the annual Massey University retirement spending guidelines, which yet again shows that retirees spend more than they get from NZ Super.

Why you shouldn't leave your retirement saving to chance

Smart, in-depth and relentlessly curious, host Kathryn Ryan dives into the stories shaping New Zealand and its people. Interviews and expert analysis from around the world and at home. It’s where big ideas are unpacked and everyday life explored.

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Why you shouldn't leave your retirement saving to chance

Why you shouldn't leave your retirement saving to chance