Let’s be real, if your podcast strategy starts and ends with “get more downloads,” you’re already wasting your time.

This episode is all about the gap between audience and sales—why most shows obsess over vanity metrics and completely ignore the part where, y’know, you actually make money.

We’re diving into the difference between attention and conversion, how to fix the holes in your funnel, and why your business should never rely on random podcast listeners to figure out how to buy from you.

If you’re not using your show to generate leads or drive sales, then you’re doing it wrong—and I’m telling you right now, it doesn’t have to be that way.

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