Part 1 of a phenomenal interview with Mary Ann Simonds, an esteemed equine behavioral ecologist, and Barbara Wheeler, a wild horse photographer. This is the first time I had them speaking together about the myths about wild herds, the overview of how they operate, and functional and dysfunction behaviors. The Centaur Podcast is also on Youtube. Check out the episode so you can see Barbara's photos! More at www.camronadibi.com