If you’re listening to this in the days that follow its release, my body is in Austin, TX. You’ll hear me talk about the personalities of artists, my partner Stevo’s Panamanian film experience, issues around using the G-O-D-word, and interview my friend Dr. Thomas Jay Oord. Tom is a lifelong photographer and also a philosophy/theology professor. We talk about who gets the credit when we make good art (and likewise, the bad art), and what “the muse” could possibly be… Enjoy!

More about Thomas Jay Oord here: thomasjayoord.com

And Amazon Author's Page: https://www.amazon.com/stores/Thomas-Jay-Oord/author/B001H6OGWE

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Questions for me or Tom: www.speakpipe.com/secretartproject

Email [email protected] to connect about anything.

A Big 5 Personality test: https://www.personalityassessor.com/ipip-120/

Intro music is “Lawless Flawless” by OMNIFLUX. studioomniflux.com

-Sarey

www.secretartproject.com

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