With rumours still swirling that Jodie Whittaker is leaving Doctor Who behind, we're starting to wonder what other surprises the BBC has hidden inside series 13 - but could that include a surprise return for Alex Kingston's River Song?

In this week's podcast we reflect on the possibility of Kingston's comeback following a recent interview with the woman herself, while also imagining what could hold the Doctor-River reunion back even if it was on the cards.

And with apologies for the regular hammering noise – while working from home, the curse of neighbour DIY is hard to escape.

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