On this episode of The Grapevine, Kulja and Dylan break down why Australia is turning into one of the most ‘indebted countries in the world’ with investigative journalist Royce Kurmelovs as his new book Just Money paints a bleak picture of the influence of debt on Australia’s culture, politics, and society. And as the Victorian Government introduces a new offence that would see metropolitan Melburnians face a $5000 fine for attempting to ‘escape’ the ‘ring of steel’, Professor of Urban Planning Dave Nichols discusses where the city really ends and the regions begin and explore some issues and politics around the boundary. Then, as Prime Minister Morrison performs a “massive backflip” on building a 1-gigawatt gas plant in the Hunter Valley, Giles Parkinson, founder and editor of RenewEconomy, discusses the Federal Government’s announcement that Australia’s two renewable energy agencies ARENA and CERF will be able to invest in low emissions technology and he implications for the future of renewables in Australia.