In this fourth episode of Making Love, Eva and John explore the theme of Will — not as force or grit, but as a living, embodied capacity.

Desire may show us what we want, but will is what carries us across the distance between vision and reality. This is the space where many dreams quietly fade — not because they weren’t real, but because staying with something over time asks more of us than enthusiasm alone.

Together, Eva and John reflect on will as sustained commitment rather than pressure. They unpack the difference between willpower — the mind forcing behavior — and true will, which arises when our actions are rooted in authentic desire. When we are genuinely connected to what matters, effort no longer feels like self-violence; it becomes devotion.

This conversation moves into the body: how will lives in our nervous system, our rhythms of energy and rest, our ability to stay present with discomfort without needing to escape or push through it. Will, here, is learned slowly — through returning again and again, through building structures that support our intentions, and through discovering that we can stay even when the path is unclear.

Eva and John also name the shadow of will in modern culture: relentless busyness. The compulsion to keep doing, producing, and striving — not because it’s aligned, but because stopping would mean facing ourselves. Embodied will, they suggest, knows when to act and when to rest. It can be satisfied. It can celebrate what has been built.

This episode invites a redefinition of strength — one rooted in presence, honesty, and the quiet power of staying.

Will is the second pillar of the Embodied Leadership journey, a 12-month path beginning in February with Dreaming in Unison.

To learn more about the journey, visit the link below.

https://www.dreaminginunison.org/12-month

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