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The Make America Great Again movement is splitting at the seams after the Department of Justice said there wasn't a "client list," something Trump's base supporters had been calling for to be released for years.
Fueled by the belief that Epstein was the key to uncovering a cabal of child abusers or worse, they helped Trump retake the White House, believing he was their benevolent, billionaire savior from the "deep state."
But after he said it was no big deal, the base started to revolt, and Trump hasn't been able to get a handle on this scandal. Grant talks about how the Epstein conspiracy became what it is, what the latest controversy is and how it could mean trouble for Trump in the not-so-distant future.
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The Make America Great Again movement is splitting at the seams after the Department of Justice said there wasn't a "client list," something Trump's base supporters had been calling for to be released for years.
Fueled by the belief that Epstein was the key to uncovering a cabal of child abusers or worse, they helped Trump retake the White House, believing he was their benevolent, billionaire savior from the "deep state."
But after he said it was no big deal, the base started to revolt, and Trump hasn't been able to get a handle on this scandal. Grant talks about how the Epstein conspiracy became what it is, what the latest controversy is and how it could mean trouble for Trump in the not-so-distant future.
LINKS:
Get Real News
Support the show
Follow along on social media
X: @mimsnewspod
Instagram: @mimsnewspod
TikTok: @mimsnewspod
Substack: mimsnewspod.substack.com
YouTube: youtube.com/@MIMSnewspod
Bluesky: Granthermes.bsky.social
Follow Grant:
X: @GrantHermes
Insta/TikTok: GrantHermesTV
SPONSORS AND ADS:
Our listeners are smart, loyal, and tuned in — and your brand could be too.
Let’s work together. For sponsorships and custom ad spots, reach out to [email protected]

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