Four years in, another round of U.S.-brokered talks have reached no breakthrough. Russia continues to make incremental gains in the east, Ukraine’s energy grid can meet only 60 percent of demand, and Trump is pressing Kyiv for concessions ahead of a June deadline.

Ukraine, however, has emerged as a leading innovator in drone and digital warfare, while Russia is increasingly reliant on what Kendall-Taylor calls the “axis of upheaval”: deepening military cooperation among Russia, China, Iran, and North Korea, with significant implications for a shifting global order.

Former senior CIA analyst Andrea Kendall-Taylor, Senior Fellow and Director of the Transatlantic Security Program at the Center for a New American Security (CNAS) joins Jay Sapsford to discuss the vital question: How long will the war in Ukraine last, and what will be its lasting impact on the global world order?

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