Anne and Drea take you south, way south, for this episode, featuring Otto’s Constant Dream Pinot Noir from New Zealand. Tangents include things to do in New Zealand, the “proper” temperature for your wine, and the perfect pairing for your popcorn. 

Recommendations this week:

• Brene Brown in all her forms
• Burnout by Emily and Amelia Nagoski
• The Sum of Us by Heather McGhee
• Dinner parties with Aubrey Plaza, Michelle Obama, Alice Waters
• Otto’s Constant Dream, Pinot Noir, Hunter’s Wines