Nathan Cavaleri will be appearing at this year's Winter Blues Festival. In this chat he talks with Roger about his background and his latest music releases. The documentary mentioned in the podcast is "Growing Pains", in the ABC's Australian Stories series from 2020. It can be found on ABC iView or YouTube. You can hear Nathan Cavaleri Saturday 7.15pm at Radcliffe's and Sunday 1.30pm in the Hopwood Gardens.