How do we gain wisdom? Covid, Politics, individualism. Gary and Jon talk about the importance of tough conversations and the willingness to feel humbled. Some ideas that the guys explore are the ideas of, Jordan Peterson, Alan Watts, Ram Dass . Jon talks about reducing anxiety and becoming more connected to the world and the physical reality. How it feels to discover knowledge, and the pursuit of what is meaningful.

Discussing the nature of reality, what it means to be a human and the felt presence of our experience.

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