In this episode I interview a man who I can call, "wise counsel",  Mark Flatau.  Mark is a son of God, husband, father, and has served as a; teacher, coach, athletic director, principal, and superintendent.  Mark holds a special place. in my heart.  Mark was a major factor in me coming to Christ, and has served as my mentor for over 20 years.  Today Mark and I talk about his early years, the importance of God in our lives, breaking the chains of family circumstances, discipline, boundaries/structure, intentionality, "pink hair", emotional control, and the "how not the what".