After realizing there was a shared bond between us over indulging in sad music I got to team up with a friend a super podcaster Ryan Bailey to discuss our "indulgent sad playlists" in what hopefully is the first of a mini series, because SHOCKINGLY things somehow go off the rails. We talk about all sorts of things from The Counting Crows to The Click to first heartbreaks. Ryan is not only the first person to really champion me starting my own podcast (blessing and a curse!) but also the first guest to get me to name names. Make sure to check out his podcast "So Bad its Good With Ryan Bailey" ...and while you're at it check out Adam Duritz cooking videos on instagram live!