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SteveO and Frank sat down with Mel, a PwC engineer, to talk about what it's like to be an engineer and the hurdles they face. 

They dug into her daily routine - from stand-up meetings to ticket management and making time to focus. They also explored how random meetings can kill productivity and the importance of debugging. They touched on cool topics like pair programming, mob programming, and using tools like Stack Overflow and Git branches. 

This conversation is all about giving you a peek into an engineer's daily life and challenges. Mel shared her experience working with a bunch of tools and systems, including VDI, email, chat, Kubernetes, OpenLens, Terraform, Angular, React, Node, YAML, JSON, and Python. She explained how her team shares info about their system through tickets and updates in JIRA. 

Then, they talked about the struggles of saving money and how it's often overlooked in engineering roles. Mel and the hosts agreed that finance and engineering teams need to communicate better and work together. They also stressed the importance of prioritizing and getting feedback.