In this week's episode, I speak with Melbourne based designer, Effie Kats. At just 29 years old, Effie has had incredible success, but it has come at a cost. Her story makes listeners face their biggest fears when it comes to business. In the same respect, her story is proof that with perseverance, you can pick yourself up from what seems like rock bottom, and once again find success.

You can find Effie on Instagram at @effiekats @baysebrand and @deadendlovers

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