How does Rue, founder of Outdoor Afro, retain her sense of joy? And how has she kept her childlike sense of wonder through all the challenges of life?

We are so thrilled to welcome to the show one of T. A.'s most favorite people in the whole world, Rue Mapp. She is the founder and CEO of Outdoor Afro, an important organization and network that celebrates and inspires Black leadership and connections in nature.

We learn about what inspired Rue to create Outdoor Afro, and her highest goals and aspirations for the organization. We also get to hear about her passion for hunting… as well as olives.

T. A. and Rue discuss her triumphant new book Nature Swagger, as well as their favorite places in nature.

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Check out Rue's book, Nature Swagger.

Learn more about Outdoor Afro.

Magic & Mountains is hosted by T. A. Barron, beloved author of more than 30 books. Carolyn Hunter is co-host.

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