Karl Kapp is the Director of Bloomsburg's Institute for Interactive Technologies, the founder of “The Learning and Development Mentor Academy,” and the co-founder of The Enterprise Game Stack. On this episode, we discuss what Walt Disney's planning process has to do with Karl's own career and niche, the ways that COVID-19 has forced rapid discovery in e-learning, and his advice for aspiring leaders who are new to an organization. We also chat about what he learned when one of his first bosses told him to keep his training tables spotless and what that means for the rest of us who want to be good leaders.