Our episode today comes with a health warning, it may change your life! Matt Parfitt and Ben Topliss share with us God’s vision for people in poverty; not just relief but release. How can we provide pathways for people to come out of poverty, and stay out?

Matt Parfitt gave up his career as a teacher to set up Grace Enterprises, while Ben is the leader of Grace Church Nottingham. We hear how the businesses they have set up have brought more than just jobs to the people in their community.

This is a talk from the Churches that Change Communities Conference, held in Liverpool in November.