On this hour of Modern Notion Daily, were talking to Bekah Sosland, an aerospace engineer at NASAs Jet Propulsion Laboratory. At 25, Sosland has worked with Opportunity, the 11-year-old Mars rover, as a flight director. Staff writer Josh Hrala joins us later in the hour to talk about the Fermi paradox: if the universe is so big, why havent we encountered other life yet?

Music this hour:

“Elle va au Japon” by Nic Bommarito, from the album A Quiet Age

Take Me Higher by Jahzzar, from the album Tumbling Dishes Like Old-Mans Wishes