In this episode of Workspace Unwired, BCO, chief executive Samantha McClary sits down with Ben Cross, the self-confessed failed architect and founder of More, a development management company that unapologetically believes that a focus on ROI delivers more than just a healthy bottom line.

In this long listen, Ben talks about his contrarian approach to development management, his commitment to always asking why, and his passion to put heart, feeling and personality into every place we create.

He’s a strong believer that refurbishment should be the strategy going forward, that every building has a purpose and that doing the right thing can be a by-product of doing the financially savvy thing.

Listen in as we unpack 10 new principles for a better built world.