In this episode of Deeply Intents, I speak with Jeremy Ornelas of Heliax, the company behind Anoma and Namada. We begin the conversation by discussing Jeremy's experience building an engineering team from the ground up. Next, we spend considerable time debating the affordances of Elixir and why it was chosen for the first Anoma implementation. After that, we discuss Anoma's Controller system at length, which draws some design inspiration from GenServers in Erlang. Later, we discuss the nuances of shipping viable products. We finish the conversation discussing object systems and relation to the Anoma Virtual Machine.

Timestamps

(00:40) - Boiling Frogs
(03:55) - Engineering culture
(09:40) - Weird programming languages
(12:40) - Anoma loves Elixir
(17:32) - History of Erlang and Elixir
(23:02) - Phoenix
(27:19) - Make cents for your bottom line
(32:28) - Elixir is live and has actors
(38:24) - Exploring the dominion of Anoma
(44:26) - Controllers and local domains
(50:27) - Ubiquitous compute
(55:51) - Ethereum speaks Anoma
(1:01:50) - All of this should be hackable
(1:06:22) - Product focused organization
(1:10:07) - What's the holdup on Anoma?
(1:14:14) - Products that make sense
(1:17:24) - Object system
(1:24:12) - Intents in Prolog
(1:28:05) - LLMs replacing devs
(1:34:00) - The Blub Paradox

Disclaimer
Nothing in this episode should be interpreted as financial, technical, or legal advice. The host does contract work for Heliax, a public goods laboratory, focusing on Anoma.