This week, we had a friend, teacher, and worship leader Dan Smale with us. Dan joins us today to talk about how he started working in ministry and his experience leading worship. The two of us get to talk about how men may struggle with vulnerability and humility that come with worship. We pick Dan’s brain on the importance of worship in our lives as men, some of the barriers that stop men from fully and intentionally being in worship, and how men can overcome those to live a life in worship.