FEB. 2022 NOTE: Dave having been one of 600+ musicians interviewed on this show over the past decade DOES NOT mean anyone involved condones either the incident he was recently arrested for OR the various disgusting things he was accused of a few years prior. At the time of this podcast, he was just a guy in a band.

_ ** ** **Dave Z** , frontman for long-running political punks **The Brat Attack** , joins us on the line from Ottawa for this episode. The Brats have a new lineup and a new album, _[…And They Called Us Savages](http://thebratattack.bandcamp.com/album/and-they-called-us-savages)_ , which focuses on Canada’s relationship to its indigenous people along with the usual anarchist/animal rights/anti-racist content. Dave talks about his experiences (as a native dude) with racism, punk rock longevity and more!