This episode is the second of two parts of my conversation with Dan Saxton. He is on staff at a summer camp in Pennsylvania, is a middle school basketball coach, and sat front row at over 30 Penn State football games when he was in college.

In the second part of our conversation, we discuss the concept of lament in various forms, from his and his wife’s experience with multiple miscarriages and family loss, along with resources and practices that they both found helpful over the past few years and how people can effectively love those in their lives going through miscarriage.

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