Before My Head Explodes with Vince Russo

Wrestling’s Next Era: WWE & ESPN’s $325M Deal, Global Moves, and AEW's Big Opportunity-Coach & Bro 9/18/2025


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[00:00:00] - Cold Open: Wrestling Transitions & Personal Anecdotes
  • Coach recalls memories with The Rock and his signature bald look, sharing backstage WWE stories and how even small details can stick with performers.
  • Vince Russo and Coach set the stage for two hours of wrestling talk, promising in-depth analysis instead of simple recaps.
  • [00:04:10] - WWE's Mega ESPN Deal Explained
    • WWE and ESPN sign a $325 million per year agreement covering 12–14 shows.
    • Confusion reigns over how fans will access events: most will have to pay separately, not through cable bundles (Coach predicted this on Day 1).
    • Frustration rising among fans now expected to shell out $30 per PPV, especially with major international announcements.
    • [00:06:50] - WWE’s Global Expansion and Fan Backlash
      • WrestleMania announced for Saudi Arabia; 96% of polled fans are unhappy.
      • Nick Khan reveals 50% of WWE premium events now overseas, PLE heading to Italy in 2026.
      • Discussion on how WWE's strategy risks alienating US core fans while chasing international money.
      • [00:08:15] - AEW’s Golden Opportunity Emerges
        • Vince Russo lays out how Tony Khan and AEW could capitalize, including potentially running a massive stadium event stateside.
        • Suggestions to involve other promotions and run major fan fests.
        • [00:09:34] - Daytime WrestleManias and Business Strategy Red Flags
          • Complaints about US shows now starting at noon, bad for engaged viewing.
          • Coach questions if WWE leadership considers the impact on fan experience and tradition.
          • Comparison: Other sports (NFL, NBA, MLB) go overseas but keep their home base engaged.
          • [00:11:41] - Wrestling Pricing Crisis: Can Fans Afford It?
            • WWE show in Indianapolis struggling to sell out despite loaded card; third-row seats at $2k each.
            • Coach and Vince explore what’s pricing the core wrestling audience out—calls for AEW to step up as the affordable, family-friendly alternative.
            • [00:13:52] - WWE’s $250 Million Saudi WrestleMania & Global TV Rights Breakdown
              • Insight: Saudis demanded the actual WrestleMania, not a "fake" second version, for $250M.
              • Context: ESPN is paying WWE $325M for the year (12–14 shows), Netflix paying $500M for 100+ events.
              • WWE talent, despite bringing in billions, appear to be missing out on revenue sharing.
              • [00:18:25] - Talent Resentment & Revenue Sharing in Wrestling
                • Coach & Vince highlight growing resentment among WWE talent for being left out of mega-profits.
                • Reference to unions and profit-sharing in other sports; WWE wrestlers often make far less without structured revenue splits.
                • [00:19:21] - Face-Off: AEW vs WWE Pay-Per-Views This Weekend
                  • AEW's All Out in Toronto vs WWE's Wrestle Palooza on ESPN—how well have both built hype and justified their price tags?
                  • WWE’s advantage: marquee names like Cena and Lesnar, but sales aren’t where they should be.
                  • [00:22:22] - Wrestling Leadership & Why Outsiders Aren’t Invited In
                    • Coach asks why wrestling execs rarely bring in new creative minds while other sports frequently collaborate.
                    • Vince shares stories about attitude era collaboration, emphasizing "staying in your lane" and letting experts do their jobs.
                    • [00:26:56] - Tony Khan, Creative Control, and the Need for Change
                      • Discussion about Tony Khan needing to stop being “everyone’s friend” and stepping up as CEO.
                      • How empowering new voices and systems could propel AEW to exploit WWE’s home-market gaps.
                      • [00:34:28] - Pet Peeves: What Drives Us Nuts About Modern Wrestling
                        • Interactive fan segment: Coach and Vince’s biggest gripes—overuse of "schmaz finishes", lack of consistency in character storytelling, forced crowd participation, and heels acting like comedians (especially Becky Lynch).
                        • [00:46:55] - Will WWE on ESPN Be a Success?
                          • Both believe WWE & ESPN will figure out the business, but the rushed timeline poses short-term challenges for fans.
                          • Big shows aren’t selling out, but with time these conglomerates are likely to adapt and thrive.
                          • [00:51:35] - Saturday’s Doubleheader: PPV Logistics & The Football Problem
                            • ESPN plans to migrate all content to a new ESPN app; wrestling shows may compete directly with massive live college football games.
                            • Dilemma: is the wrestling audience distinct enough, or will split attention and scheduling kill early momentum?
                            • [00:55:24] - Who's Poised for a Breakout?
                              • Vince wants Drew McIntyre to get his due—but WWE booking hasn’t helped.
                              • Talk about how talent need to look the part if they want superstar pay.
                              • [00:58:12] - Final Thoughts & Merch Giveaways
                                • Vince will be in the mountains this weekend while Coach leads a premium-member live watchalong.
                                • Wheel of Doom giveaway for fans; new “I Bet Wrestling” merch announced.

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