At the end of the day, we write and make movies for an audience. For money, even. That can seem so at odds with the actual creative process, which is so self-centered and so personal. So, how do we navigate that divide? How DO we make something that a customer wants to buy, and yet stay true to the personal story we want to tell? We discuss!

Also, Josh recommends Harry Potter and the Chamber of Secrets, and Ira recommends Val on Prime.