Katie is an old college friend of mine, and ... just so happens to be a critically acclaimed author of her own memoir, Lightening Flowers, 2020.

We talk about her brush with death, journeying through the ultimate fear of nearly not finishing her book, what living means to her, and generally have a really fun discussion on the hilarity and magnanimous journey of human life.

This is one of my favorite podcasts yet, and Katie is so much fun to talk with. Find out more about her writing doula work here:

https://www.katherinestandefer.com/

And read her incredible book here:

Lightening Flowers