Marie Parks, co-author of Unrelenting, gabs with Benjamin Gorman about the hammer dulcimer, the Respect for Marriage Act, and the virtues of Earl Grey tea with a splash of milk and a dark chocolate-dipped digestive biscuit. You know, writer stuff. 

Today's secret word: "Present." Make a noise when you hear it.

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