Today's guest is Jeff Barton. Jeff is a writer, an avid runner, a lover of books, a practitioner of positive thinking, and most importantly a dad to two wonderful kids.

Jeff and Jonathan talk about the fact that they could be brothers and how they met on Medium. Jeff discusses how hard it is to write about difficult topics like mental health, but also notes how writing about it has helped change his life.

Jeff talks about how publishing online and getting feedback makes him feel more normal knowing that others can relate to his struggles. They also talk about Jeff's running and how it helps him clear his head to open up the flow of ideas. Writing has made Jeff a better person and more importantly, a better father to his girls.

Links:

Jeff's personal website - Jeff the Writer

Jeff's page on Assemblage

Jeff on Medium

Jeff's publications - Runner's Life and Recycled

Jeff on Twitter - @jefftherunner1

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