This week our guest is Dr. Elaine Dr. Winthrop, esteemed psychologist, author and also Anders’ own therapist. Let’s get this out of the way: Anders does not want his therapist on the show, but he is trying very hard, and both our heroes may have their work cut out for them to make it through this one alive.

Produced by Cat Hollander and Max McCal
Intro vocals by Hans Fricke
Intro music is Blame by Fresh Body Shop
End credits music is Blind Love by Jeris
Additional sound effects from Zapsplat.com
This episode’s executive producer was Julie Katz