Ben & Daniel talk with W.S. Di Piero, author of the poetry collection "Tombo." Di Piero talks about the patterns of sound that stir his poetry. He also discusses the opening poem of "Tombo," and why he chose to open the collection with it. Unlike many other poets, Di Piero doesn't concern himself over the order of the poems in a collection, unless they are following a theme.

For this week's Poem of the Week, W.S. Di Piero reads "Hub Cap: An Essay on Poetry" from his collection "Tombo."

In this week's Poetic License, Benjamin Alire Saenz reflects on forgiveness, humility, and human rights.

And, Ben & Daniel talk about their favorite and not-so-favorite words.