AL & Tom are joined by Ben Butler to discuss gang life in the UK. Being the enforcer for gangs for many years and partaking in many illegal acts of violence, Ben knows what he is talking about and can tell people stories that can make anyone feel a little queezy! Nowadays though Ben has paid his debt to society and decided that enough was enough. He cleaned himself up and put a coaching company together, in a bit to help the new generation not make the same mistakes that he made growing up.From being part the UK's gang problem to being an inspiring solution to it, Ben can (and quickly is) become an important spokesperson in Shropshire and we are lucky to get the opportunity to speak to him.After Ben leaves, AL & Tom catch up. AL bullies Tom into getting to watching The Umbrella Academy and explains the differences between the show and The Boys.It was 4th of July when we recorded this so it would be rude not to do an Independence Day quiz...."Welcome to Earth!"