Today I had the pleasure to talk with Joe De Kadt. Joe is a scientist and filmmaker. Like me, Joe got sucked into the strange world of a substance referred to as "Ormus" aka ORME (Orbitally Rearranged Monoatomic Elements). After going down the rabbit hole online, he decided to fly to America, get a van, and make an awesome movie about it. Go to www.allthegoldyoucaneat.com and watch.