Mike and Jon start with a conversation on the mentality of immigrants and the difference between risk and the unknown followed by a meandering walk through marginal cost how to evaluate friendships and the dangerous virality of long dead ideas.

The difference between risky outcomes and unknown outcomes

The value of having relationships with people you disagree with

How old ideas made new can come back with a vengeance

Jack Dempsey wouldn’t spar Hemingway for fear of hurting him

Marginal cost

Ethno-Nationalism

Mercantilism

Darth Sidious

Fire and Fury