Eurogamer video producer Zoe Delahunty-Light asked Jordan if she could come on the podcast to talk about a recent indie game she "absolutely devoured": Wytchwood. Their conversation ended up covering the pros and cons of repetition in games, how it feels to play as an older female character, and a different kind of video game villain.

Check out Zoe's stream of the first hour of Wytchwood for Eurogamer on YouTube. Jordan also streamed it on Twitch!

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Mix: Dan Parkes

Music: Jazz Mickle

Art: Emily Majarian

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