Shortte speaks to Xavier Ellis - the number 3 draft pick back from 2005 - who went on to play 120 AFL games for both Hawthorn and West Coast, playing in three Grand Finals including Hawthorn's win over Geelong in 2008.

Xavier talks about his time at the Hawks, among the likes of Buddy Franklin, Luke Hodge and Alistair Clarkson, and the chain of events that brought him to WA to join the Eagles.