One of Alan's biggest inspirations to start XR for Business was the prolific catalogue of Kent Bye, who has released 884 recordings for his VR-centric podcast, Voices of VR. Alan has Kent on the show for a chat that was too big for one episode! Check out Part 2 later this week.

Alan: Hey, everyone, Alan

Smithson here, the XR for Business Podcast. Coming up next, we have

part one of a two part series, with the one and only Kent Bye from

Voices Of VR. Kent Bye is a truly revolutionary person and he has

recorded over 1,100 episodes of the Voices Of VR podcast. And we are

really lucky to have him on the show. And this is two parts, because

it goes on and on. Welcome to Part 1 of the XR for Business Podcast,

with Kent Bye from the Voices Of VR podcast.

Kent has been able to speak peer to

peer with VR developers, cultivating an audience of leading VR

creators who consider the Voices Of VR podcast a must listen, and I

have to agree. He's currently working on a book answering the

question he closes with every interview he does, "What is the

ultimate potential of VR?" To learn more about the Voices Of VR

and sign up for the podcast. it's voicesofVR.com.

And with that, I want to welcome an instrumental person to my

knowledge and information of this industry. Mr. Kent Buy, it's really

a pleasure to have you on the show.

Kent: Hey, Alan. It's great to

be here. Thanks for having me.

Alan: Oh, thank you so much. I

listen to probably the first two or three hundred episodes of your

podcast, and I went from knowing literally nothing about this

industry to knowing a lot. And it's those insights that you're able

to pull out from the industry that's just amazing. So thank you for

being the voice of this industry.

Kent: Yeah. And when I started

the podcast, I wanted to learn about what was happening in the

industry. And so I felt like one of the best ways to do that was to

go to these different conferences, and to talk to the people who were

on the front lines of creating these different experiences. And so at

this point, I think I've recorded over 1,100 different interviews and

have published over 760 of them so far. So it's about for every two

interviews I publish, I have like another interview that I haven't.

So I just feel like it's important to be on the front lines, going to

these gatherings where the community's coming together and to just be

talking to people and see what they're saying. See what the power of

this new medium is.

Alan: I had the honor of being

interviewed by you at one of these conferences. I don't know if it

ever got published, but it was an honor anyway just to speak with you

on the subject. But you get to talk to literally everybody, anybody

who's anybody in this industry. And it's really an amazing experience

to listen to these podcasts. And you really go deep into the

technology of it, the listeners of this podcast are more maybe in the

business, maybe they're not really into VR. What are some of the

business use cases that you've seen from these people that you've

been interviewing that made you go, "Wow, this is incredible?"

Kent: Well, first of all,

virtual and augmented reality as a medium is a new paradigm of

computing: spatial computing. And I think one metaphor to think about

is how we usually enter into the computer is by pushing buttons and

moving a mouse around. And it's almost like we have to translate our

thoughts into a very linear interface in order to interact with

computing. And it's usually also in a 2D space, so a lot of times

interacting and designing for 3D spaces. And so there's kind of like

this weird translation that you have to do all these abstractions in

order to do computing. So I feel like one of the big trends that's

happening right now is that with spatial computing