In this episode of Urbanomic's Yarncast series, Urbanomic director Robin Mackay and artist Paul Chaney talk about the ideas behind the project and some of the background to their work. Recorded at Bergen Academy of Art and Design.

Yarncast is a series of podcasts produced by Urbanomic as a part of the research residency project The Ultimate Yarnwork at Bergen Kunsthall in January–February 2015 (www.urbanomic.com/event-uf34-details.php), and featuring in depth interviews with writers and thinkers from a variety of disciplines, centered around the concepts of plot and plotting.