Have you ever wondered what it's like to transition from Associate to Lead Pastor in the same church? Today we talk about exactly that. 

Joe is the husband to an incredibly talented artist and justice-seeker, Joann; dad to their fun-loving, music-playing son, Asher; and best friend to their dog, Leigh. Joe loves being outdoors and travelling and enjoys all things music and sports. Joe currently serves as Lead Pastor at Bothell UMC in Seattle.

Prior to serving as Lead Pastor, Joe was the Associate Pastor of Bothell UMC. In this episode, we talk about how important your character is when transitioning between two different roles at a church. Especially when the transition is to Lead Pastor. We talk about the motivation, transparency, accountability and the heart.