Mark and Rex discuss one of their topics: theology. Specifically they ruminate on the fact that we are all theologians and how much our thoughts about God truly matter.

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Welcome to Jessup think I'm your host Mark Moore and your co host, Rex Gurney, and Rex on the show today, we are kind of just gonna kind of follow where the Spirit leads, I think and and mostly framing it under this lens of the importance of theology. And we're the two perfect people to talk about that too, because you teach theology and I used to teach theology just before they stopped letting me teach you. That is, that's a good, a good marker. I used to teach theology. So we have Yeah, current theological theology teacher, former theology teacher, but we're gonna mostly frame this through the lens of what does it mean to think the illogic, right, right, and how does that affect other areas of our life? Exactly. And

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that's a question that you can't avoid.

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Exactly. So we hope you enjoy the show. By Rex, we had just a few podcasts ago, we had theologian Kelly Capek, on, you know,

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and as soon as as soon as actually he was on the show, I started noticing his name everywhere I was, I was having my personal devotions. I'm not making this up, actually. Sounds like one of those people brag. I know. I know. I know. But, so I was having my devotions on looking at this book that I'm reading. And it was co written by Kelly kapok and I had no idea I bought this book, like forever ago, and oh, my gosh, this guy's everywhere.

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Yeah, he has really been a part of a lot of books and edited a lot. So right. So it was great. Having him on the show really enjoyed that. So if you're listening to this, and you haven't seen it, go back and listen to that episode. But I wanted to start this off Rex with a with a definition of theology that he gives. And he provides this in his little book for new theologians, which really is an excellent book, we didn't get a chance to really talk with him about Right, right, because we focus mostly on another one of his good books embodied, embodied hope. But this is a great it is literally a little book, like his little in size. And it's short pages. So perhaps, yes, some students will actually Yeah, exactly. So that's, I mean, those are the kind of books I look for, for students, because they might actually read this, we're so jaded. But, um, but I love that he goes to the whole thing, and he ends on this actual definition, okay, of theology. And he says this, he says, In its most fundamental form, Christian theology is an active response to the revelation of God in Jesus Christ, whereby the believer in the power of the Holy Spirit, subordinate to the testimonies of the prophets and apostles, as recorded in the Scriptures, and in communion with the saints, wrestles with and rests in the mysteries of God, His work in his world. And I love how how much he packs into that, right? There's a lot in that state. It's a long sentence, right? I don't know, if you know, my English teacher would probably critique maybe the length of the sentence. But I love how he ends. The first part, which I think is really important. This has been something for me, theologically, that has really shaped me, I would say over the last five to seven years, is the idea that, that the revelation of God is first and foremost, most pronounced in Jesus. Because often when we think of Revelation, and even when we think of special revelation, right, if we look at those categories in theology, special revelation versus general revelation, we often in the evangelical community, we often jump to the written,

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right scripture, right, right, the written word, where's the living word? Yeah. What subordinate to the other

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and I think it's important that that Kelly highlights this. And it's really, it's really an idea that I think Carl Bart influenced and, and really bring to, you know, to promine