Keith and Ricky continue their conversation with former Black Panther Party leader, Elaine Brown. In this episode, Elaine will talk about her non-profit, Oakland and the World Enterprises, and how it helps empower formally incarcerated folks start their own businesses. She will also discuss what it was like as a women in the Black Panther Party, and conclude with her views on white fragility. Keith and Ricky will close out the episode with a look at events in our nation during the height of the Black Panther Party and how they were interpreted depending on one's lived experience and backgrounds.