Daniela Mack does not do backup plans. Daniela and Kai talk about her being Argentine American (4:20), what made her go to Louisiana State University, perhaps not the most famous school for opera (17:45), and what kept her going in those moments when she wasn't winning auditions (24:22). They also discuss being in a marriage with a fellow opera singer and how she's grown from that (37:30), and what she would tell a younger version of herself (50:07).