Celia Pacquola joins the show today with some words of wisdom gained from the 12 years of doing a job that still terrifies her : stand up comedy. We cover some pretty intense shit but it's OK because she makes it funny. 

00:00 The intentions behind Mindgold and the value we can gain from vulnerability and sharing our experiences.

02:20 Celia meets Graham. General banter.

08:30 Getting the feelings out on stage; how being vulnerable and sharing your insecurities brings strength and catharsis. 

13:30 Speaking out about things that matter. 'Me too', abortion, the importance of telling your story and the anxiety of how that message will be received. 

17:00 Internal vs external validation, how to measure your success without relying on the opinions of others.

22:00 Not having an end goal, why this is more motivating, and the fear that accompanies continuously striving for the next challenge. 

29:00 Tattoos. Why? Sarah's unintentionally bleak views on commitment. 

31:30 'Fuck off, I'm shit'. The cultural norm that is imposter syndrome and why we can't just say we are good at something. 

35:00 The roller coaster of mental health, how to seperate yourself from your negative thoughts and make yourself take action.

41:00 You are not a burden, the importance of reaching out and of making your mental health a priority.

47:00 Why we want to believe that everyone is trying their best.