In this episode of Rebel, Reject, Create, we explore how creativity actually emerges between people: through psychosocial safety, visible listening, and experiential practice. My guest, Simo Routarinne is an interaction designer and culture shaper, contrasts individual vs. team creativity (“cathedrals” vs. blocks), shows why culture is behavior (not slogans), and shares practical micro-moves (nodding, appreciative tokens, “first idea” drills) that spread viral change. Expect improv wisdom, habit design you can use in your next meeting, and a liberating reframe: stop trying to be original—be obvious (to you), together.Find out more about Simo here:https://www.proimpro.fi/Find out more about David Chislett here:https://davidchislett.com