In this engaging conversation, Dave McGlynn and I explore the multifaceted world of the fire service, emphasizing the importance of continuous learning, mental health awareness, and the innovations in training. They discuss the significance of networking at events like FDIC, the challenges leaders face in supporting their teams, and the necessity of self-care for those in leadership positions. The dialogue is rich with personal anecdotes and insights, making it a valuable resource for anyone in the fire service. In this conversation, Dave and I discuss the need for improved training in the fire service, particularly at the National Fire Academy. They emphasize the importance of leadership development, proactive training, and the challenges posed by budget constraints. The discussion also touches on their upcoming book project focused on training and leadership in the fire service, highlighting the need for collaboration and innovative training methods.