Conflict between co-founders is inevitable.

Letting it spiral out of control is optional.

In this episode of Founder to Fortune, Vidya Raman sits down with Dr. Matt Jones — licensed psychologist, co-founder coach, and author of The Co-Founder Effect — to explore why the co-founder relationship is the single most under-managed risk in startups .

Matt works exclusively with founding teams to improve communication, teamwork, and decision-making. In this conversation, he shares both deep psychological insight and highly tactical tools founders can implement immediately.

Key Topics Covered

• Why the co-founder relationship is the floor and ceiling of execution

• The concept of emotional debt — and how it erodes trust

• How to contain conflict so it doesn’t contaminate the business

• Co-founder syncs vs. co-founder dates

• Meta-communication: working on the relationship, not just in it

• The dangers of rigid stories and confirmation bias

• When you need co-founder coaching (and why waiting is risky)

• Rethinking 50/50 equity splits

• Recognition gaps between technical and business co-founders

• The three relational languages: operational, psychological, archetypal

• Power dynamics in complementary founding teams

• The pursue/withdraw cycle

• Why 3-founder teams add exponential relational complexity

Rapid-Fire Toolkit for Founders

• Use breath to regulate before responding

• Replace “you always…” with “I feel X when Y…”

• Call for pauses in spiraling conversations

• Repeat back what you heard (reflective dialogue)

• After high-stakes meetings: debrief, regulate, then repair

If you are building a venture-scale company, this episode will change how you think about risk.

Because most startups don’t fail from lack of intelligence.

They fail from unmanaged relationships.

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